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02:49:23 <smkl> abi: stockhausen?
02:49:23 <abi> no idea, smkl
02:50:16 <smkl> abi: stockhausen is implementation of alice at http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/~rossberg/stockhausen/
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10:00:06 <hcf> Tril: how do u feel about freezing the parts (glos atm) of tunes.org that r being ported to d2?
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10:25:38 <Tril> hcf: That stuff is updated so infrequently why do anything different?  Porters can look at the CVS logs if any changes occur.
10:26:16 <hcf> that means porters have port the additional changes
10:26:18 <hcf> which blows
10:26:25 <Tril> Yes but there won't be any
10:26:43 <Tril> The only one who edits them is Fare. Ask him if you want him to not do anything, but he probably won't anyway.
10:27:21 <Tril> Any such "freezing" should be done by policy not by technology.
10:27:22 <hcf> one never knows what fare will or wont do, which is quite lovely in of itself
10:28:09 <hcf> i'l speak to him
10:28:23 <Tril> is anything being ported to d2? Is it done?
10:28:40 <hcf> i think cor is porting glos entries
10:28:50 <hcf> u'd havta ask him
10:29:04 <hcf> did u make a backup routine for d2?
10:29:43 <Tril> everything in the db is being backed up. The code for d2 itself is not
10:29:53 <Tril> (cor should back his code up himself)
10:30:14 <Tril> it can be backed up after it's in production use.
10:30:56 <hcf> k
11:09:19 <Fare> Hum
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16:28:14 <eihrul> gakuk
16:28:28 <Fare> Gakuk!
16:31:32 <Tril> this will not work.
16:31:36 <Fare> Basile helped me a lot today
16:32:14 <Fare> I'll be writing my PhD thesis in french (required by the varsity, unless I find an academic contact abroad that requires writing in english)
16:32:30 <Fare> Will anyone translate?
16:33:05 <tcn> not me
16:33:14 <Fare> tcn: wassup?
16:33:16 <Tril> Fare: will you teach me French?
16:33:23 <Tril> then I can translate.
16:33:29 <Fare> Tril: sure.
16:33:56 <Fare> hey, I think doughof is coming to Paris this year...
16:34:08 <Fare> and will be visiting Jacques Pitrat's team
16:34:23 <Fare> (oh, the fsckers put JP on retirement)
16:34:45 <Fare> (will he apply as a student once again to stay at the varsity?)
16:35:47 <Fare> (I heard a Nobel Prize did that at some swiss school)
16:37:04 <Fare> Can anyone find me an academic contact in the US?
16:37:12 <Tril> what?
16:37:53 <Tril> What is meant by an academic contact that requires writing in english?
16:38:06 <Tril> Doesn't the TUNES list count?
16:38:25 <Tril> or the whole Internet, for that matter?
16:38:54 <Fare> Tril: to me, a lot. To the varsity secretarian, not at all.
16:39:09 <Tril> what does a contact need to do?
16:39:37 <tcn> so you need some sort of CS professor?
16:39:40 <Fare> Tril: I'm not so sure.
16:39:47 <Fare> tcn: yup
16:40:17 <tcn> and what is the subject of your thesis?
16:40:23 <Fare> Tril: I guess financing me, writing a paper with me, or otherwise collaborating would count.
16:40:46 <Fare> tcn: The Semantics of Reflective Systems as applied to building distributed systems
16:41:53 <tcn> maybe one of those guys from Hackers can help you :)
16:42:06 <Fare> maybe.
16:42:22 <tcn> Tom something-or-other @ai.mit.edu
16:42:27 <Fare> btw, there are good papers on dormoy.org
16:42:29 <tcn> Tom Knight?
16:42:47 <Fare> tcn: does he still exist?
16:42:55 <tcn> isn't he tk@ai.mit.edu?
16:42:59 <Fare> I was more thinking of demigod Olin Shivers.
16:43:10 <Fare> tcn: Last time I wrote, he didn't answer.
16:43:19 <tcn> RMS!!
16:43:34 <Fare> Olin encouraged me to continue, but isn't directly interested at the time being
16:43:41 <tcn> he has all the time in the world for email
16:43:45 <Fare> RMS definitely has different views from mine
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16:46:28 <Fare> Well, I'll write in french.
16:47:31 <tcn> heh.. i'm using 6.5 again
16:48:04 <tcn> I think 7.0.2 would be fine though..
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17:00:37 <tcn> reboot..
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17:15:10 <Tril> rebooting your computer, or off to watch the TV show?
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17:20:39 <tcn> yall still here now?
17:24:16 <Tril> uh huh
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17:32:28 <Tril> I'm still here, trying to get Postgresql 7.0.2 to work with everything..
17:50:25 <tcn> oh yeah.. i'm starting to use that at work.. having a bitch of a time with this 800000-record table
17:51:10 <Tril> my problem is the postmaster writes output onto the terminal that I started it from.
17:51:17 <tcn> indexed searches, no problem.. 'like' is slow as hell though
17:51:54 <tcn> are you using the pgsql.sh script to start it?
17:56:05 <Tril> I'm now using the Debian package!
17:56:28 <tcn> hmm.. and i'm using the freebsd patched version..
17:56:32 <tcn> go figure :)
17:56:47 <tcn> my problem right now is the damn sound :)
17:57:21 <tcn> used to be fine, now I have a delay
17:59:21 <Fare> impnotes.txt ?
17:59:42 <Tril> ARGH I hate rxvt breaking my multi-line pastes!
18:00:05 <Fare> Tril: XEmacs!
18:00:38 <Fare> tcn: what about the sound?
18:00:48 <Fare> tcn: how's retro7 going?
18:00:55 <Tril> Fare: how is that supposed to help?
18:01:33 <Tril> I'm pasting from 'less' into 'psql'
18:01:37 <Tril> where does xemacs fit?
18:02:11 <tcn> ahh, to hell with computers
18:02:15 <Tril> anyway, I bit the bullet, and pasted twice, once for each line
18:02:27 <Tril> Zope appears to be working again.  Let's try diktuon.
18:02:48 <Tril> hehe it lies, it says the error is unrecoverable
18:03:11 <tcn> heh.. what's up w/ google.. I search for 'bhreathain' and it says 'did you mean "breathing"?'
18:04:27 <Tril> did you?
18:04:40 <Tril> someone's email name?
18:05:50 <tcn> it's foreign
18:07:06 <Fare> Tril: log to a file, load with xemacs, copy/paste correctly
18:07:44 Fare gotto 0x3053
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18:08:11 <Tril> shouldn't that be 3053x0?
18:09:36 <tcn> S0?
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