02:01:14 ult joined #tunes 07:42:41 Brianna joined #tunes 07:43:42 22NOV00 IIRC 08:48:38 eihrul joined #tunes 09:06:36 hcf joined #tunes 09:46:36 hcf joined #tunes 09:50:03 [QUIT] eihrul quit: Leaving 09:54:22 [QUIT] JALH quit: brb 10:23:13 abi: thrive is THReaded Interpreter Vector Engine at http://www.equi4.com/thrive/ 10:24:47 ^ has influences from Forth, Joy, Trac 11:37:46 eihrul joined #tunes 11:44:37 Fare_ joined #tunes 11:45:50 [QUIT] Fare_ quit: Connection reset by pear 13:13:43 Asnart joined #tunes 13:18:20 [QUIT] Asnart quit: Ping timeout for Asnart[clgrtnt2-port-173.dial.telus.net] 13:28:55 Asdnart joined #tunes 13:29:07 hello? 13:30:30 [QUIT] Fare quit: Ping timeout for Fare[ppp63-net1-idf2-bas1.isdnet.net] 13:35:18 eihrul joined #tunes 13:35:28 hey eihrul 13:35:33 ? 13:37:17 the OS is not needed when you've got the right language... right? 13:37:33 rmm, no 13:37:49 the question becomes: What is an OS when you have the right language? :) 13:38:22 hmm, i'm trying to basically understand how the language can become the system 13:39:25 it is my understanding that a programming language is basically a bunch of text, with a bunch of rules. for example, squeak.exe is not the language, but the text inside squeak.exe might be the language 13:40:30 your understanding is wrong 13:40:37 languages need not involve text at all 13:41:04 what?? 13:41:37 you heard me 13:42:23 not only that, but then you have the question of what are "rules" 13:42:34 when you talk in terms of the language becoming the system or OS, you aren't using the word "language" as in "squeak.exe is a language (the whole environment, the pretty windows)" 13:42:56 or are you? 13:43:15 eihrul shrugs. 13:43:18 look at it this way: 13:43:24 an instruction set for a computer is a language 13:43:35 things like the Linux kernel also provide a language 13:43:42 an extension of the underlying architecture instruction set 13:44:14 most operating systems are really just specific and unextensible languages 13:44:34 yeah, an instruction set for a computer is a language, and when we program, we are treating it as if it is not currently executing 13:45:07 but i'm starting to see what you mean 13:45:45 like basically, linux kernel provides a whole bunch of functions which each program calls, like time() or whatever.. which is not highly extensible.. right? 13:46:01 and you call the functions that the linux kernel provides a "language" 13:46:02 ? 13:46:13 kinda sorta, it was a rather simplistic description on my part, there's more to it 13:46:20 but that's the general idea 13:47:24 what more is there to it? 13:47:42 i've been looking at squeak, but it is kind of confusing 13:48:07 at this point i think you should read the information available on the tunes site :) 13:48:35 heh 13:48:51 how's the dolphin os doing these days? 13:49:27 that's kc5tja's thing 13:49:34 not quite sure where he is with it right now 13:49:50 oh i thought you were participating in that.. 13:50:02 what's your thing then? you involved in os stuff? 13:51:45 well, you do hang out here 13:51:51 so the second question is moot 14:16:31 Kyle joined #tunes 15:20:03 tcn joined #tunes 15:40:47 Fare joined #tunes 15:49:43 hey Fare 15:52:27 [QUIT] MysticOne quit: Ping timeout for MysticOne[porpoise1.panama.gulf.net] 16:17:01 [QUIT] Aardappel quit: http://www.planetquake.com/aardappel/ 16:53:56 BC_V joined #tunes 16:59:58 BC_V left #tunes 20:58:29 [QUIT] pratap quit: Ping timeout for pratap[202.9.150.96] 21:00:23 [QUIT] eihrul quit: Leaving 21:29:04 eihrul joined #tunes 21:29:04 eihrul left #tunes 21:54:50 ult joined #tunes 22:04:51 [QUIT] ult quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go? 01:44:15 Fare joined #tunes